A "debate" on the Muslim community center near ground zero

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DO

Think i am gonna puke. The president of the united states just said that he fully supports the mosque at ground zero. Great job america.

NC

Great. Let's make everything we've fought for and the brothers we lost amount to nothing. I quit.

JM

And this surprises anyone???????

KR

it does not suprise me one bit

JL

He's a limp DICK!

JB

We were attacked by terrorists who happened to be Muslim, so all Muslims are evil? Adolf Hitler claimed to be Christian, but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't claim him. I've never been a huge Obama fan, but I would say this is a pretty strong statement that we won't allow hate, fear, and prejudice get the upper hand.

JL

Read their Quran! They are more of a hate group and less of a religion.

JB

Watched a show the other night that had a secret camera in a grocery store and actors playing a cashier and a Muslim lady (dressed in veil). The cashier refused to help the lady and demanded that she leave the store because HER people caused 9/11. The majority of bystanders either did nothing or supported the cashier. That's the real problem, not whether there's a mosque at ground zero. The one guy who did defend the lady lost a son in Afghanistan. I guess he's an idiot like Obama.

JL

Yes he is....and you should move to the middle east!

JB

Since Gods country is there, that would be Israel in case you didn't know, I might just do that. Nah, I want to make sure this great country doesn't allow bigots to ruin it.

NC

actually, if you read about Hitler and the history of the SS, you'll notice that both he and Himmler started it as a way to revive the old Germanic pagan religions. They originally celebrated Yule instead of Christmas where the SS were gathered, and even the SS symbol was a pair of german runic S's. I think that Hitler may have tried to use a "christian" appeal to increase antisemitism, but he really wanted a german pride that extended even to its religious roots. We americans should take the moral high ground and allow for religious freedom like our constitution says. But I will say that from what I read of the koran, Islam is the only religion I know whose scripture and doctrine actively support terrorism and all the atrocities that have made it famous. It is the one religion whose belief structure is consistent with all the crap done in the name of religion. So... is it possible to be a true american and support the constution while simultaneously not allowing a religion to flourish that would trample on that constitution? Discuss.

NC

I don't hate Muslims, it's just that everywhere I go that has a majority of the people who follow Islam, they all try to kill me. I also know that the more militant followers usually build a mosque on ground where they defeated an enemy. I don't have a problem with a mosque being built, just not in a place that will send a message of weakness to those who tried to destoy us. JB, I see and respect your point of view, and I am against unjust discrimination and treatment of anyone, but I also have had a lot of very close encounters with those who would kill us all, and I have lost many good brothers as well. I cannot support this.

KLF

Obama didn't win a single county in the great {conservative} state of Oklahoma ...

MSW

sad thing we should be building peace and this is only creating more dissention.

JLH

I want to move to Texas or Oklahoma. Where the true conservatives are.

BVH

The radical muslims are trained to kill infidels. Where is the love in that?

JVH

just what you would expect from a muslim!!!

JL

I'm with MSW. I want peace. Unfortunately, the nation of Islam doesn't seem to want peace here. Oh, and MC, you said it best!

JB

Wow...this country hasn't progressed as far as it would like to think from the 50s. I guess the african-american community should be teaching their kids to hate all Christians because the KKK, which boasts of their Christian values, tormented them for years. I thought the movie The Siege with Denzel Washington was scary, but seeing it play out in real life is even worse.

CCP

Another sad day in American history. I'd like to know, of all places, why they justify wanting a Mosque there.

BVH

so all african americans arent Christians? Some Christians twist things around, but the Bible doesnt teach us to kill non believers. Not saying all muslims are bad, but if they are faithful to the koran, they cant be good

MKW

Sorry, I'm with JB. We can't use the Bill of Rights (Amendment I, specifically in this case) to defend our own freedom while ignoring it to shut down someone else's. The Bill of Rights has to cover those we agree with and those we don't
Also, you can't assume that all Muslims are terrorists in the same way that you can't assume that all Christians will stand outside a soldier's funeral holding a sign that says "God Hates F@gs". There are extremists and undesirables on all sides.
Obama might be right on this one, IF he's using the constitution as grounds to stand on. Well, even a stopped watch is right twice a day.

MKW

I would also like to add that I wish they wouldn't put one there. I wish they would see that others see it as hurtful and find some other overpriced chunk of real estate to put it on. However, if one religious group can be stopped from building, there's nothing stopping a community who is unsupportive of Christianity from blocking a church from building in their area. I wouldn't like to see that either, and I can't have it both ways.

JB

The Old Testament is filled with stories of God instructing His people to kill men, women, and children of nations who were unbelievers. It's harsh stuff. It doesn't change my Christian faith,because I trust God knows what He is doing, but one definitely can't say that since the Koran is more violent than the Bible we should isolate all Muslims and label them inferior. Or, let's just give in to all this fear, round up the muslims and make them live in their own camps.

DO

But the point is. He is the President of the US. At least be political. Lol. 68% of the nation say they don't want it there. Its the arrogance. Church and state. If a neihborhood is attacked by a serial killer. Then his family decides to build a house next door. Would you want them next door to the house that the killing was done? Even though they didn't do the killing. Its just so in your face.

JL

The Old Testament was geared for very different times and people. I believe most Christians follow the New T. And how did this become a black and white issue anyway? This is about politics. I don't care if the President is pink, purple or green. If a certain group of people, religion or otherwise, wants to kill my family, and the families of my country, I don't feel they should have any rights here...period!

JB

So I guess if 68% of America wanted slavery back he should do it because that's what America wants? Wow. Man, I hope some crazy middle school math teacher doesn't decide to commit some terrorist act or I'm going to be lumped in with the Muslims.

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